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Don’t give someone a reason not to work with you
Maturity and Patience
What’s up everyone! As always we gotta start with proof that AI didn’t write this for me.
I’m typing this out on my phone while taxiing for takeoff on a flight to Los Angeles to go see my client, business coach, and friend Chris Do. We got some podcasts to film including going to Tom Bilyeu’s house to record one on his set of Impact Theory.
We are airborne now and I just want to say I’m feeling my outfit today - especially my new sneakers; Adidas Sambas.
These were a nostalgic purchase because of how hugely popular these sneakers were when I grew up playing soccer and my parents couldn’t afford them. I remember trying to convince my soccer friends that my knockoffs were cool too. I can’t remember anyone agreeing.
My new pair are white (not black), with red stripes and some navy blue coloring. Navy blue is and always will be my favorite color which is why my jacket and pants are also navy blue today.

So real quick on Chris. I discovered him during Covid and quickly realized this is a guy I need to listen to.
Wait. This could be its own article. It’s a great story. I’ll save it.
But do know this; it was Chris who once told me, non judgmentally as always, “Don’t ever give someone a reason not to work with you.”
And that’s what we’ll cover today, a lack of business maturity during a stretch of my business that certainly cost me relationships, revenue, and reputation.
If you don’t want to self sabotage any of those 3 things, you’ll want to read on.
Welcome back to UNFLTR - the newsletter that helps you untangle your podcast & content hold ups and get to work.
In today’s UNFLTR:
Overcoming business immaturity

Quote of the week
“Don’t bore the audience.”
- Tom Bilyeu’s response to Chris when he was asked “Anything specifically you want us to cover in today’s podcast?”

3 Meetings and a baby
A few months ago an awesome branding agency named Creature Theory, helped us rebrand from Rich Cardona Media to UNFLTR.
Knowing my ideal client profile and having been to my new content studio, Creature Theory’s founder, Matt, recently introduced me to a great prospect.
The prospect and I had a discovery phone call for about 40 min.
A week or two later, we met for coffee for an hour. And, since he has virtually no social media or online presence I didn’t think a video podcast should be his first move even though that was advice he was given.
I suggested that he let me film some short form content as goodwill and figured it would be a good vibe check for both of us.
It went great. He posted the content. And the content did well.
We then met again the following week for coffee but this time he brought along a colleague of his for about 45 min.
A few days later we had an agreement signed and boom I had another new local client!
But, they wanted another meeting to go over a detailed document of our processes and workflow.
Guess what? That document doesn’t exist.
I tried to say the meeting wasn’t necessary and that we’d be able to cover plenty in our onboarding, but he insisted.
You may think I’m crazy (especially with this analogy), but if a friend tells Ann and I that they’re pregnant, we congratulate them and ask how we can support.
We don’t need the details of how the baby was conceived. That’s their business.
Our details on how we “make a baby” at UNFLTR is our business.
Plus, I thought in our first 3 meetings we had covered a substantial amount of info and that discussing our process wasn’t necessary.
“All you need to know is the outcome” I said in my head.
MEET THEM WHERE THEY’RE AT
This will be a recurring theme in UNFLTR Weekly because it’s proven to be an enormous difference maker.
These guys are NOT creators. They come from multiple decades of business consulting- specifically on the operations side.
Every. Single. Thing. They. Do. Is. Detailed.
But just because:
We usually don’t have 4 meetings to close for our Show Up and Shoot package (I’ll brief you at the end of this)
We didn’t have a document in place
I didn’t want to have to create a document
Most clients don’t ask us to outline our processes
They don’t do social media etc
doesn’t mean they’re the wrong client!
It means we are blessed to have the opportunity to help people more than usual.
We are blessed to learn the needs of those we serve better.
We are blessed to create a new evergreen asset that can be used again, implemented regularly, and become a source of inspiration for content we can make.
Most important of all - we are blessed to determine the strengths or weaknesses of how we communicate which is the true catalyst for a positive or negative client experience.
Fortunately, I met them where they’re at.
In full transparency, especially if you’re reading this David, I got onto ChatGPT voice mode and told it our entire process, had it ask me any questions about anything that was unclear, then had it organize it cohesively for me.
I was able to bring them to the studio and present.
Here’s what happened…

Collective Confidence
It didn’t take long to realize we were both stretching ourselves. They were out of their comfort zone and I was out of mine.
And you know, I respect that about them so freaking much. That is always the proof that a client cares.
Energy and generosity are gifts that MUST be reciprocated. If I can’t meet or exceed their effort than why the hell am I in business?
We went over our process and workflow and it allowed for so many productive sidebar discussions that absolutely killed any opportunity for ambiguity or confusion.
I felt sooo confident during the process and I can tell their confidence increased a ton. Win - win.
The Epiphany for Me (and you)
It hit me. It wasn’t the work I was afraid of. I love to serve my clients!
It was the lie I had begun to tell myself that almost ruined this and has ruined partnerships in the past:
“They don’t trust me.”
As an entrepreneur, creator, or aspiring creator - nothing can stop you in your tracks faster than assuming people think you don’t know what you’re doing … especially when you’re an expert at what you do.
We cannot expect people who like us, want to do business with us, or consume our content to just give us their trust.
Ironically enough.. it’s a process.
The process requires patience, empathy, and is different for everyone.
My biggest nightmare clients from the past were mostly control freaks and I poured gasoline on the fire every time.
“Just trust me and do what I say.”
“I don’t understand where the confusion is.”
“We covered this many times already.”
“Maybe you should find a different vendor.”
All non empathetic and shitty responses born out of my own insecurity from the feeling of being doubted. If I could have just put myself in their shoes or realized their questions are a call for help (not an indictment) things may have different.
When emotions go up, intellect goes down.
Just a few months ago I released the foothold of taking it personally when people (clients, friends, or family) didn’t take my or my team’s advice.
That’s their problem. Not mine. And I don’t mean that in a bad way.
Our job is to show up to help or at least offer help, not set the conditions in which people must take it or mull it over. That’s on them.
My life and business is different after Chris’s advice finally sank in years later and I deeply hope you can embrace this if you have struggled with anything similar to this.
Getting clients, followers, subscribers, and views is hard enough. Don’t be the reason something doesn’t get the at bat it deserves.
Next week:
Does being a podcast guest give or drain your energy?
Bringing order to creative chaos
Show Up and Shoot (SUAS)
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We come up with 40+ content ideas for you.
We help prep the script.
You show up.
We film.
We edit.
We post.
You have content for weeks (or months).
I travel to you? 12K
You come to me? 9K
Resources
Useful links from the web that you’ll find handy:
How to start a podcast playlist - here
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Lens I recommend: Sigma 30mm f1.4
USB Mic - Shure MV7
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Thanks for reading UNFLTR today - I’ll see you again next week!
— Rich
P.S. ways to work with me:
1:1 Coaching
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Filming Day here at the UNFLTR studio in Wilmington, NC
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